Minnesota State
Colleges and Universities Discipline/Department
Meeting
Hennepin Technical College, Brooklyn Park, April 11, 2003
Art Report Summary
Facilitators: Pat Kraemer, JoAnn Simser, Michele Ludens
Transfer issue/problem one:
Portfolio review
Strategy(s) to address transfer issue/problem
one:
- Submit a certain number of pieces.
- Recommended guidelines.
- Oral review should have more than one reviewer.
- Should have a signed review sheet by reviewer/s.
Transfer issue/problem two:
What are foundation courses?
Strategy(s) to address transfer issue/problem
two:
- Define content specifically.
- Agree that these are the foundation courses:
Drawing I 3 cr.
Drawing II 3 cr.
(2D) Design 3 cr.
(3D) Design 3 cr.
Art History I & II 6 cr. total
Transfer issue/problem three:
Consistent advising to students that want to transfer.
Strategy(s) to address transfer issue/problem
three:
- Cant advise until we come into agreement on
the transfer issues.
- Each four year school must, in writing, define their
transfer criteria.
The following is a list of issues, ideas and suggestions
from the post-its collected during the meeting.
A. Foundations 1st two years of
the art major
- Foundations (1st 2 years) of art major.
- Students should be advised not to take all general
education if they was the BFA degree.
- Associate of Fine Arts (AFA) transfer issues: Freshman
foundations lacking in Drawing 1 & 2 and Design 1 & 2.
- Within the general education requirements a student
should try to take at least four studio classes.
- NASAD accreditation: It is the responsibility of
the receiving institution to determine the level of transfer courses
that are prerequisites for studio courses.
- Accepted number of transfer credits agreed upon
for four year institutions foundation core courses.
- What is different between 2+ 2 and AFA? What does
each guarantee a student?
- How do we design the Associate in Arts (AA) or the
AFA to be part of a four year degree.
- Based on what I have heard from community college
students who want to go into art, there seems to be a problem with
the amount of general education classes the the amount of art classes
that a student may take for a two year degree.
- If transfer is in fact in place AFA,
there should be some absolute way a CC student can transfer to an
art program directly.
- If we set up a core foundation program for community
colleges, will all of the state universities follow the same core
foundation?
- Do all community colleges all have the same course
requirements and who decides?
- How can we come to agreement on core requirements?
What does core consist of?
- What can we agree on? Outcomes for: art history,
drawing, painting.
- Continuity and consistency of courses between institutions:
drawing I = drawing I, etc.
- At the two and four year institutions establish
clear coursework in all art classes with specific expectations for
transfer.
- Necessity to coordinate curriculum so that CC students
receive strong foundation and drawing instruction to prepare them
to move into college/university programs.
- Art history courses transfer problems as opposed
to studio foundations.
- Be careful not to impose specific requirements,
but find some common ground to all of our credits for transfer. Specific
criteria may be enforced from above. We all want independence, but
we need some agreement on basics.
- Need to coordinate grading efforts in order to create
greater consistency so that students are not misled as to the success
of their efforts. Grades must reflect skill.
- I have one basic issue. Have students attempting
to transfer to my institution (4 yr) received similar instruction
to what they would get at my school? Specifically: 1. course content,
2. instructors with terminal degrees, 3. contact hours with professors.
- Prerequisites Drawing I and II and Design I and
II accepted by state universities for general education, but not for
the major.
- Foundations are not required for studio classes!!!!!!!!!
- Not enough foundations offered in community colleges.
- We need stronger two year and four year agreements.
- Contrast mission of two year and four year schools.
- To provide art courses for a smooth transition into
a four year institutions.
- Prerequisites for 200 level courses at a CC.
B. Portfolios:
- Work with art majors on portfolio preparation.
This may have to be offered as a course.
- If students portfolio is not acceptable then turn
them away. They will go to another school. Students should apply
to more than one school.
- Portfolio review for the AFA will help to insure
that a students art credits are not just elective
credits.
- Establish a common portfolio review process for
all students entering a BFA for two and four year schools.
- Portfolio reviews are subjective at every school.
Every school thinks it is the best. GET BEYOND THIS.
- Portfolio reviews should be built into the AFA.
- How can the discussion on preparedness of art students
be focused on the visual nature of their work not simply courses
taken, but their portfolio?
C. Art major/non-majors:
- How do we teach design with a limited number of
art majors? Example: four art majors and 16 non-art majors in the
same class.
D. Faculty credentials:
- Qualifications of instructors: a. TAs at many
colleges teach foundations, b. Cc and tech schools have minimum
qualifications for MnTC classes.
- Foundation courses taught by grad assistants.
- Adjunct or FTE faculty teaching foundation courses.
- Courses at the CC should be taught by instructors
trained in the particular area. Art history teaching art history,
ceramics trained instructors teaching ceramics, etc.
- Art history teachers should have a MFA in art history.
- Faculty contact hours.
E. General Education:
- Can more art courses satisfy the Minnesota Transfer
Curriculum (MnTC).
- Prerequisites for art courses not accepted at another
institution. Example: Spanish I for Spanish II, Drawing I for Drawing
II.
- Separate general education for fine art
credits during instruction.
- Courses that clearly meet MnTC goal 6 at sending
college not recognized as goal 6 at the receiving university.
F. Faculty contact hours:
- Credit versus contact hours.
- Contact hours for studio classes 3 credit
classes, how many contact hours.
G. Resources:
I. General comments:
- How do we visualize the future as opposed to the
current situation?
H. Benefits:
- What are the benefits for transfer for the four
year schools.
- CCs and tech schools have more individual attention,
one-on-one.
- Diverse students in the CC.
- Students finding art as a career that would not
consider it in a four year.
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